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Markus Schulz is chairman of the temporary employment agency USG People Deutschland. In the interview, he explains why he considers the political demand for equal pay for temporary workers and the stamper staff to be wrong and why minimum wage is the better solution for him.

Marcus Schulz studied mechanical engineering and technical management at the Technical University of Munich. He was a consultant at IBM and a director at Manpower. Since 2009 he has been a member of the management of the Dutch USG People Group. That Companys has 1.436 branches in 10 European countries, including the German headquarters in Munich.

Mr Schulz, what is your opinion on the equal pay of temporary workers and the staff of the tribe, in other words the current equality pay debate?

The demand for a state-regulated equal pay for the temporary and temporary staff is absolutely unacceptable, as currently discussed.

This position is not really surprising for the manager of a temporary employment agency ...

That doesn't mean that I fundamentally close myself off to a debate about equal pay. On the contrary: this topic belongs on the table – but not like this. The undignified tugging on the backs of Hartz IV recipients must come to an end. Those involved should respect the understandable desire of the People for more wage justice seriously and no longer make it a plaything of political power interests, but rather professionally Solutions search.

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And what does it look like?

Equal Pay must not be regulated by law, but the wage development must be fairly negotiated by the collective bargaining partners.

Why?

In the Article 9 Paragraph 3 of the Basic Law guarantees trade unions and employers' associations the right to negotiate and conclude collective agreements free from state influence. In this capacity, it is a proven, indispensable tool for freedom, prosperity and social peace that must not be shaken.

Now you will be pathetic!

Not at all: With more than 900.000 employees, temporary work is not a second-class job market, as unions often suggest, but an independent industry. The same applies to them as to everyone else Industries in Germany, collective bargaining autonomy. The design of fair wages is therefore not a task of politics: the German Trade Union Confederation (DGB), the Interest Group of German Temporary Employment Agencies (iGZ) and the Federal Association of Temporary Employment (BZA) should seek transparent agreements among themselves. Anything else would be a bureaucratic monster with chaos inevitable.

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So you would do it better than the policy dictates?

In this context, I would also like to point out that the temporary employment industry in the DGB collective agreement pays at least € 7,60 per hour (West) and is thus well above many other DGB collective agreements. So if the unions take fair wages seriously, then please do so together with the collective bargaining partners and, above all, in their own collective bargaining landscape in other sectors. The call for the legislature reveals that there is obviously no desire for joint solutions. Because it is hardly obvious clear, the consequences of thoughtless equal payRegulate would have.

Namely?

The expert's deficit has already led to a situation where the wages of qualified employees are aligned (the question of whether we are qualified to defend ourselves is now very controversial!). If there are short equal-pay deadlines - like the last four to six months discussed - the rotation of temporary workers is accelerating. These will always be shorter in the companies, their chances of takeover will fall.

What documents do you have for this?

In other countries in Europe, Equal Pay has also resulted in the fact that temporary workers are not “replaced” by permanent staff, but that their work is shifted to contracts for work. In this case, the rules of the Temporary Employment Act do not apply. The consequences of a statutory equal pay regulation are therefore devastating. If equal pay is prescribed by law, the companies will move jobs abroad, which will be particularly detrimental to the low-skilled and / or the long-term unemployed.

What would your solution look like?

The discussion of equal pay must finally be made clear by keeping to the objective facts: instead of collecting the tariff autonomy, we finally need the inclusion of the temporary work into the workers' employment law and the introduction of a binding minimum wage.

So minimum wage instead of equal pay?

Yes - because a tariff-bound Workplace with fair wages is always better than state-subsidized unemployment. Jobs – especially for the weaker participants in the labor market – would disappear, because temporary work offers many people a chance of a job that companies would no longer offer with equal pay conditions.


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