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By Simone Janson (More) • Last updated on October 21.10.2011, XNUMX • First published on 20.10.2011/XNUMX/XNUMX • So far 4926 readers, 2678 social media shares Likes & Reviews (5 / 5) • Read & write comments
Who as Online being a freelance journalist Money earned, has to consider many things: For example, he has to pay taxes on income and when blogging and online Marketing Watch out for various legal pitfalls.
As a blogging, self-employed online journalist with various sources of income, you can fast caught between all stools what income tax, Value added tax and social security. ME this is because the legal situation is simply light years from the actual professional reality of many People lagging behind in this country and the development of the Internet.
All the more I was glad that tax consultant Rüdiger Schaar has dealt with this topic in great detail in a really good guest post on mediadigital.de, the blog of my colleague Ulrike Langer. For example, he also deals with the tax treatment of people who blog while working hard.
Schaar, who for Freischreiber, the professional association of freelance journalists, has a hotline for everyone Ask of tax and the artists' social security fund, also comments on the sales tax of social payment services in the article.
According to the expert, their revenues, even if they are surrendered from abroad, are still subject to VAT in Germany, with 7%.
After yesterday, with Ulrike Langer, a brief, lively discussion at Twitter about sales from abroad, I was briefly a bit confused, as the now looks with advertising revenues, for example of Google Adsense or revenue via Paypal.
After some research and thinking, I mean the riddle Solution to have found - but I would like to be taught better by experts and would then update this post accordingly:
If I have understood that correctly, the obligation to pay sales tax in Germany only applies to social payment services, because the money here ultimately comes from abroad Performance - i.e. the writing of the texts and the payment by the reader - but took place in Germany.
In the case of advertising income, on the other hand, you provide your service for someone based abroad Companys, so sales tax also applies there. Advertising is also listed separately as other services in paragraph 4 of the Value Added Tax Act 3.
I found more useful information on Meetinx. Of the Article is already older, but this fact has apparently remained the same. Mediafon.de offers more information on the new / old regulation of the sales tax law, unfortunately without explicitly going into the subject of advertising.
At the very end of the contribution Schaar goes to a very different point: The trade tax liability, which arises in advertising - albeit starting from a net profit of 24.500 Euro a year.
Much more problematic could be for freelance journalists who use the artists' social security fund insured are, the advertising revenue in terms of social security law: Schaar writes:
“If the (advertising) circuit yields a profit of more than 4.800 euros per year, the 50% subsidy from the artists' social security fund for the Health insurance. However, a subsidy for the statutory pension insurance remains.”
Even if I would basically agree with this, the KSK website says something else: A business registration is just as little a requirement for compulsory insurance under the KSVG as it is a reason for exclusion. So maybe first ask the KSK in individual cases and describe your own situation?
In addition to taxes and social security, copyright can also Problems make. The Ideato make money with blogging to earn, is also so popular because everyone can just get started: set up a blog, write something interesting in it, build up your reach (e.g. with Twitter) - done... or something... That could change soon, however, if these freedoms are restricted. There are already approaches to this.
You might know: You clicked on a certain video on YouTube, maybe because foreign friends posted you on Facebook thereon I aufmerksam made – and then: “This video is not available in your country”. Reason: copyright claims. Well, you think, with a few videos it doesn't matter, there are still enough free offers on the net, just click on.
Unfortunately, it might look different soon. For some weeks now, the topic of network neutrality is being actively discussed not only in Germany. In short, this means that all content / data packets are no longer being transported in the network at the same speed.
This could mean for readers in the end, that content in the end is no longer used to - how this can look in practice, netzwertig.com has aptly described (and for the insiders: Yes, I have read the discussion about it whether it really is a true restriction of net neutrality, but it is a good example to demonstrate the effect.)
This restriction of freedom is not nice for the reader, but for bloggers it could mean even more: namely, their own blog clear becomes slower, readers and thus income are lost. The debate about net neutrality is not new - recently, however, there have been various attempts by network operators to restrict it, as netzwert.com shows in an overview: the Spanish telephone company Telefonica, for example, announced that it would ask content providers to pay.
telecommunicationsExecutive René Oberman defended differentiated pricing of data transmitted in the telecom network. And Google allegedly negotiated with the US telecommunications provider Verizon about a preference for certain data in Verizon's networks for a fee.
critic fear, however, that the changes will not take place suddenly and unexpectedly, but rather gradually: Sometimes a data package will be subject to a fee, then you will have to pay extra for a service - until finally freely available content as we know it today is a thing of the past .
Long has opposed it Resistance formed: On the website of the Pro-Net Neutrality Initiative you can virtually sign for the continued existence of net neutrality. The fact that there are not even 10.000 signatures so far is probably due to the fact that it has hardly been possible to find a broad public for this important but complex topic.
Regulatory claims on Internet content, which is spread in blogs or at Twitter, however, there might also be from other side.
The Bavarian Prime Minister Horst Seehofer declared in the opening speech of the Munich Media Days on Wednesday that Internet be broadcasting. Private broadcasting in Germany is regulated by the state media authorities. The managing director of the Bavarian State Media Authority BLM, Martin Gebrande, qualified the statement by the Prime Minister on Wednesday at a panel discussion to the effect that broadcasting is a linear medium that is suggestive act must. In addition, in Bavaria there would only be an obligation to provide information for online offers similar to broadcasting, such as web radio or web TV, if they reached more than 500 users in their streams.
The Isar Round from Munich drew the following conclusion from these statements: "Should the Bavarian state government stick to Horst Seehofer's statement and if one understands the statements of the BLM Managing Director, Martin Gebrande, correctly, then a Twitter account with more than 500 be a broadcast offer to followers.” On twitterers with over 500 followers could then Costs of 5.000.
In order to prevent this and to achieve legal certainty, the Isarrunde has registered its Twitter channel, and only this, as a radio offer on the Internet. Michael Praetorius personally presented the managing director of the Bavarian regional center for new media, Martin Gebrande, with the completed form from the BLM website for displaying an Internet radio program. If the BML accepts the registration, the Isarrunde-Twitter must pay 5.000 euros.
But not only: one such decision would probably affect all other Twitter channels as well. So can we all soon pay 5.000 euros? For Prätorius, to whom I asked exactly this question about the deep Sinn of SALE it's about more:
“If the Landesmedienanstallt rejects the application, you can discuss their right to exist as a regulatory authority. If you agree to the application, however, a Bavarian authority will claim Twitter - and you definitely have to discuss that! ”
In addition to various more or less serious forms of advertising, there is also the possibility of earning money through advertising - through public funding or a paywall. Is it worth it?
A form of financing that I haven't tried yet because I hadn't even thought of it: public funds. Of course, the blog must also be in the public interest. The journalist Matthias Spielkamp demonstrated it and thankfully one Presentation published about it. The occasion for Spielkamp's presentation was the future congress of the Freischreiber journalists' association.
This is where Spielkamp spoke in the workshop”Fun can't be eaten – money and business models” about journalists as entrepreneurs. After the panel discussion that followed was criticized by listener Felix Schwenzel, Spielkamp went into more detail on the topic in his immateri blog because he found the discussion unsatisfactory. In the presentation he describes how he uses his platform irights.info on copyright in the digital Welt built. From 2004 to 2006 he was funded for 18 months by the Federal Ministry for Consumer Protection, Food and Agriculture.
Despite the Grimme Online Award and numerous project applications, it was not until 2008 that the Federal Ministry of Research and the Federal Cultural Foundation received new funding. Spielkamp sums it up: it is impossible to get follow-up funding, no matter how successfully and the Projects is. And: The effort involved in submitting applications for smaller projects is too great!
A few weeks ago, I have rejected a (initially) lucrative seeming offer of 500 Euro monthly, because the marketer was constantly contradictory statements, tried to persuade me with threadbare arguments and ultimately decidedly unsympathetic. Sad thing.
But how do they see it? Alternatives out of? Flattr, for example, is theoretically a nice thing: Readers pay voluntarily with a kind of micropaymentSystem, if they like a contribution - in small cent amounts. In practice, however, it does not work on every blog. And Flattr earns the most himself.
One or the other has already seen it: On my blog there is now also the green-white-orange Flattr button, with which readers can donate small sums of money via micropayment if they like an article. Around Honestly I was - and still am - skeptical that this would lead to any significant result on my blog.
Flattr is a neologism of “to flatter” (to flatter someone) and “flat fee” (flat fee). But the question is: is Flattr really a long-term business model - or not much more than a blade of grass in the wind? In any case, it works like this: If you register with flattr, you can pay a monthly amount of between 2 and 100 euros by clicking on the button on your website Choice distribute - provided the blogger or website operator has registered the page with flattr and installed the button. A very good explanation can be found at self-employed on the net!
The problem with Flattr, which is already much discussed on the web, is: You can only donate if you log in beforehand. And exactly that MotivationTo create an account at Flattr at all is usually only brought by people who are already in the blog and Web 2.0 sphere - on pages that deal with precisely these topics.
That made for strong discussion material - and many experience reports on the subject, there are already: about Daniel Fiene. Felix Schwenzel or Stephan Niggemeier. Critical voices can also be heard, such as Netzpanorama, by Don Alphonso or Sascha Lobo. A monthly overview of the most fluttered German contributions Carta offers.
If readers are to pay, it also depends on the right target group: the best of HR - Berufebilder.de®, on the other hand, is about classic career topics: My readership is correspondingly broad. And that's why there are many among them who don't know what to do with the Flattr button, simply because they didn't even notice the discussion about Flattr.
Because how little the normal internet user understands the slang of the nerds, I can already tell by how rarely the "Like" button is clicked or what comments I get about navigating the page. This shows how things that are completely logical to me affect some users - and that as a blogger you have to adjust to what is an ongoing optimization process.
But there's another reason: I'm still skeptical that Internet users are even ready to pay for content on the net. The takedown mentality is quite large - the free culture too!
If so, then only a small part of it that understands that you can't do all the work for free and that sometimes it's nice for bloggers, even a little recognition to get. In this respect, I am happy about every one in the course of the Flattr experiment positive Surprise!
So far, I have mainly been on advertising to earn money - and I still believe that you can get more money together here. That I still have installed Flattr, has several reasons. For one thing, there were some reader complaints about the disturbing advertising. I also found that under the over-abundant advertising, user-friendliness and design suffered a lot. Finally, another aspect is important: to support and network one another - and at the same time to make one's own work transparent. And flattr contributes to that as well.
In the end, I removed the Flattr button again. My test month has now shown that my skepticism was justified: I have taken in whole 74 cents on flattre. I was skeptical from the start whether the principle would work: In order to be able to flattrend as a reader, you have to transfer 1,8 percent of the chosen amount + 35 cent per transfer to Paypal. And even Flattr takes 10 percent of the fees. In plain English: In order to flattren 2 Euro a month I have to pay at least three euros. I think that, to be honest, a bit crass: no wonder that Flattr has prevailed so far only those who benefit themselves from the payment system. What comes out then is what Sascha Lobo and many other prophecies: A system in which the bloggers themselves push the money back and pay for it still fees.
To put it bluntly: Of course Flattr works very well for some blogs. Namely exactly for the better known blogs, which are also read in the blogger scene. Or those with whom the readers identify, who have a proper community. This is not the case on my blog because career topics appeal to a different audience. One who often comes via Google and is looking for quickly usable information and tips for his professional life.
But I have also found that the Facebook-I like-button was clicked - an indication that the readers do participate - but apparently only up to a certain limit. Perhaps the technical obstacles described above are also such a big problem that many readers click the “Like” button, but not Flattr? Just because you stop at Facebook is already registered? In that case it could, for everyone Criticism to Facebook, one in the social Network integrated payment system for blogs help. Or is it simply because it doesn't cost anything, in Facebook to click the like button?
Flattr leads darüer addition to other technical problems, with which I had not expected so: The Flattr button made my blog slower as another Java script. And much slower: It took up to half a minute thanks Flattr button, until the site was fully loaded. An absurdity! So go away with the thing and lo and behold, the site loads again much faster.
Because a good idea or not: Surely you can invest and Flattr – if only to support what is actually a good idea. However, if the site becomes slower as a result, which in the end will probably also result in a drop in the number of hits, then not only does flattr not bring in any money, it actually does damage in the end.
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Simone Janson is publisher, Consultant and one of the 10 most important German bloggers Blogger Relevance Index. She is also head of the Institute's job pictures Yourweb, with which she donates money for sustainable projects. According to ZEIT owns her trademarked blog Best of HR – Berufebilder.de® to the most important blogs for careers, professions and the world of work. More about her im Career. All texts by Simone Janson.
Hello Mr. Schaar,
what about the income taxation for sponsored products?
If I use this for my post office, the use of a business output is similar. Since the product has been sent to me, it is also considered as an ingestion.
Can I assume a zero gain in this case?
Thank you,
Best regards
Antonia Short
Flattr has quietly quietly quietly said goodbye, did not he? There is now the VG word in which I honestly take part.
What do you think? When will it be worth it?
Hi Dirk,
At VG-Wort, the limits for the minimum call-offs are set anew every year - and a little higher every year.
It's just a little effort, because you have to incorporate a pixel for each post and then report the contributions individually.
Hello Jannick,
Regarding the tsunami announcement, I am back several times. Nevertheless, one must not forget that one of the formerly best known German blogs (aka Basicthinking) was bought solely for the reason, so that you could build this network of advertising links. BT was the door opener for the online costs GmbH and unfortunately this is always swept under the carpet.
[...] general, without any well-founded evidence for this statement being presented or models like Flattr even being mentioned in one word: However, the industry perceives that consumers [...]
Thanks for this interesting post about Flattr. I'll take a closer look soon.
oh and you also say, in your menu under Database is a mistake, you can not click on a link after geosciences. Hope that helps.
As I wrote later in the series, I expanded it again. At the moment I'm thinking about reinstalling it ... ;-)
Thanks for linking to my post. I've been collecting income from Google AdSense for several years now and have my complete tax declaration always done by a tax consultant. As far as I can judge that, nothing has changed significantly in the assessment of then.
PS: It would be nice if you write meetinx instead of meetnix ;-)
Hello Mr. Iseri, thanks for the update and sorry for the writer - I have probably read too much Asterix ;-)
Why are all of the external links here “noFollow” Ms. Janson? What do you have to lose if the followers were?
Swabian mentality?
Nothing. I just want to link pages that I like. For the synonymous weekly the Linktipps.
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Dear Mrs. Janson,
whether Google punishes these pages or not, I do not notice at all.
You hardly notice it wherever I am. Just a backlink counts and nothing else. Let's see what happens when the Panda update comes. Trim the site to a “keyword”, put advertising on it and earn money with Goo. And what I find bad is that many people are not able to differentiate between one content and the other. If you land on a page full of advertising and trimmed to a “keyword”, you have to ask yourself whether the content is credible or not. Very few people have this “internet competence”.
“Content” is now “mass-produced” and not “quality”, and I find that very bad.
That there are sides between white and black, that's OK. But it is not okay to “fraudulently deceive” users.
I think I've seen and read too much to support your divided opinion. But maybe you should exchange us “not publicly”. . .
Hello Gerhardt,
I mean for example my site, which is also ad-supported, but I also pay attention to the quality of the content. Maybe that's why I see it so positively, because I can now quite quickly distinguish between such fake sites and good sites. You may be right that many lack this media literacy.
You do not want to write a guest contribution?
gruß
Simone Janson
There are two types of content on the Internet:
- a serious, topic-related, ad-free and well-kept one
and then there is the second part, the. ,
- Is shaped by SEO, PR, advertising and other factors and which is geared towards the advertising machinery of search engines and marketers.
Everyone wants to make money, that is clear, but the question is how?
How do you earn your money?
Have you already noticed that for a top placement on Google in the industrial sector (e.g. repairing hydraulic pumps) a significantly smaller PR is necessary for the same top placement with “Lady Gaga”?
Is it absurd? And because that is so, the question arises what kind of search engine are we dealing with? A “business” search engine?
Hello Rogarema, so flat-rate I would not say: There are good content, which is of course also advertising-financed. Search engine optimization is also something you should do in moderation.
The point is, however, that one should not exaggerate it. A page whose content consists only of automatically aggregated blog content, where the content is only peppered with SEO keywords to be found at google is of course dubious. Google punishes such sites now!
Heyhey, quite nice if you are interested, you can also check out my blog;)
Hello Jannick,
you're right, maybe the suspicion is that it is even in affiliate advertising is unfair advertising. If the advertisement is clearly marked as such, however, this is not the case.
Personally, however, I have experienced the fact that affiliate advertising only brings something, if one also directly in the text refers to the advertised product. And exactly there the thing in my opinion is also unfair. In this respect, this is not a very simple subject and I realize that most people see the laxer than I do.
gruß
Simone
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Hallo,
What I cannot quite understand is the designation of the forms of advertising SEO, SEM and Affiliate Marketing as “unattractive”. This is discussed in the following text, but the impression arises as if, for example, affiliate marketing always works with methods such as masking affiliate links. For bloggers in particular, this can be a very profitable source of income even without dodgy methods, which I also discussed in an article on my blog:
In the reactions to Bloggergate, I have to completely agree with your view. It's a shame that such methods are now considered normal, but it's also an open secret, which is why Pallenberg's previous announcement of a “tsunami in the blogosphere” was probably exaggerated.
gruß
Jannick
Hi Philip,
well, there are some blogg on which it works, netzpolitik.org, carta or even the Taz blog. These are, however, all larger, more well-known blogs with a, indeed idealistic, parenthood, which are apparently willing to pay when they regain their own opinion in blog contributions. And which are also very internetaffin. As far as I can see, however, flattr is not more than a room at all.
What do you mean by “building your own list”?
Hey!
So I hold rather less of flattr. Exactly for the reasons you have addressed 1. most people know too little and 2. who is already paying for reading in blogs? Even if some information would be worth their money. But the experience shows that it is seen as a matter of course to get info on the net free of charge. Among us, I would not pay for it either.
think it is more meaningful and profitable as a blogger a) to draw attention to products and b) to build their own list.
lg Phil
Hello Mr. Schaar,
Thank you very much for your explanatory remarks, which help us very much further. That explains a lot!
Simone Janson
Hello Mrs. Jansen, please allow me two brief remarks.
VAT:
In my opinion, Flattr revenues are taxable and also subject to sales tax in Germany, since the money is paid by Flattr users and not by Flattr itself. Flattr only forwards the payments and acts like a “bank”. The users will usually be residents of Germany or private individuals. In this respect, the income is subject to sales tax in Germany.
In the case of advertising revenues of foreign entrepreneurs, however, the reverse charge procedure applies. This means that the VAT liability is transferred to the foreign-based entrepreneur and in this respect no sales tax is incurred in Germany.
Künstlersozialkasse:
As a KSK insured, it is possible to achieve not only the artistic or, in this case, journalistic income, commercial income on a limited scale harmless. However, in the case of a profit from commercial business of more than 4.800 Euro, the contribution of the Social Insurance Fund to health insurance is not applicable. A subsidy to the pension insurance scheme is paid for as long as the commercial profit share is less than EUR 33.000,00.
The case of a journalist, who mainly received income from the rental of advertising advertisements, was both negatively influenced by the Landessozialgericht and the Sozialgericht in the lower courts and the journalist was denied access to the KSK. Meanwhile, however, the revision was allowed before the Bundessozialgericht. It remains to be seen as far as the highest decision will be. At www.medienvorsorge.de we will inform you immediately after the decision.
Many greetings, Rüdiger Schaar
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Hello Sascha, thanks for the super comment. I found your interview really great because you are one of the few well-known bloggers who honestly talk about the topic of making money.
Was only on vacation and offline for a few days - hence the late answer, sorry.
And I would find it urgently necessary to speak more pragmatically about the subject.
You will therefore not only appear in my blog, but also in my lectures - soon again at the Medienforum Mittweida:
By the way, it's nice that you like the series - there is still a lot planned. Unfortunately I don't have four employees :-)
now I forgot to say that I really liked the whole series “Make Money Blogging”.
Hello Simone and thanks for the nice feature.
Not only the fact that you are concerned about the subject, but also the point of objectivity, I find very important.
On my side, I always point out that I only recommend products, which I bought or bought myself. I can not allow myself to recommend something, which promises me very good conversion, but ultimately only because of this fact is recommended. My reputation would be immediate.
Of course, I generally report on products, which makes Affiliate much easier and yes, there is also a little more than for books, however, electronic products are limited via Amazon on 10 Euro commission. Annoying when a Mac for 2000 Euro over the virtual shop goes: /
My readers love Amazon and that is mainly due to the great support, which is offered there. To give you a house number: The conversion rate is 2-3%!
Honestly blog, make personal recommendations, which should be more recommendation than potential merit and it works with affiliate. At least with my niche theme.
Many greetings from Taipei
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